I just received an email from some Full-Timing friends who announced that this was their last year of work-camping. And this is not the first notice we have received from friends in 2009.
What has happened to those “living the dream”? A variety of things have changed this last year – one of which is the economy.
Many folks who live the Full-Time (or Seasonal) RV lifestyle saw an increase in the number of work-camp opportunities available (in fact, many places were begging for help by offering fuel/travel incentives or end-of-season bonuses), yet with the economic situation workers either could not afford to work these jobs or get there (fuel costs). And by “not afford” I mean that some employers have reduced benefits for RVers or cut them out completely.
It was an affordable lifestyle – living at your workplace or nearby for free. Now many campgrounds and resorts want you to pay a reduced or “nominal” (which appears to be a favored word for employers) campsite fee, in addition to working for them at minimum wage. And most of these offer low hours, not even guaranteeing the money you make working will pay for your campsite, electricity and other expenses.
And there are those who have the “work-for-site, extra hours paid” offer. These employers require you to work a certain number of hours per week (usually between 20-30) for your campsite. Any hours worked over that time are paid. So if you were to work 24 hours a week for your site and you worked 30 hours, you would only get paid for 6 hours of work. The problem our friends have had with this is that if you figure out the value of the campsite and hours worked, you are getting very well below minimum wage.
I recently did the math on a job advertised in a work-camping site and you worked for $1 an hour. Of course, this amount was not from their ad. They had a completely different “camp site value” in their ad than the one from the price listed for monthly rentals on their updated website. It was actually cheaper not to work there and just pay for a campsite!
And some employers are offering crazy deals. I actually received an email last week from one in Montana that said they needed help and “might pay” if we were “up to haggling” with them. Then there was the one that said if you put down a deposit your site and worked the required hours to pay for it in trade for the entire season, they would give you a seasonal bonus. No mention of what became of your deposit, but ironically, the bonus amount was the same! My personal favorite is the theme park which requires you to pay for your campsite and then gives you a bonus at the completion of the season which they even tell you can be used to reimburse your campsite. Not a true bonus, just a refund of what you have been paying them over the summer.
Another change is those who employee work-campers. They seem to have forgotten that those who work-camp are not only workers, but potential guests.
Employers are sending vague emails or leaving generic phone messages. If they come across your email or phone number they want all your information without telling you anything about the position. In several cases, we have received emails that do not even mention the place or location! Just a name and “I need help. Send me your information. If I like what I see, I’ll contact you.” One didn’t even include a name!
Now work-camping is no different when it comes to applying for any other job. If you walk into the local grocery store and put in an application, you know where you are applying to. Some employers now want to be secretive, either that or they must be collecting people’s personal information. I would not send any personal information to anyone who does not identify themself, their position, the name of the company they work for, the job location and the position. Furthermore, I want to know what I am being considered for before I send personal information. If you are a computer person, why send information to someone who wants you to scrub toilets everyday? Not only are they wasting their time, they are wasting yours. Unfortunately, this type of employer response has increased the last year.
A friend of ours received an email from a potential employer in Florida and the information did not mention if the job included pay and/or full-hookups (FHUs). It was a high-end park so she politely emailed back that they were interested; however, wanted to be sure the job included FHUs at the very least. The employer emailed back that was something to be discussed after being hired and if they hired them, they would then be told if it included compensation and FHUs! Later she found out through another work-camp couple that it was a volunteer job (36 hours a week, each person) and that you received a site at a “nominal fee” and you were required to pay utilities, plus you had limited access to the facilities, even though you worked and paid to live there!
Fortunately, our friends have been good at circulating information about these so-called employers and their “opportunities”. If the business is a campground or RV resort, we cross them off our Woodall’s and Trailer Life books. Why bother doing business with people like that? With the power of the internet, let the world know how unprofessional these employers are!
Many folks are giving up the work-camp dream this year. I honestly can’t blame them. Even some of the sites devoted to work-camp jobs have added sections on work-at-home (or RV in our case!) and other money-making schemes. If they have given up on living the dream, then maybe the rest of us need to wake up from it.








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January 4, 2010 at 12:52 am
Jaimie Hall Bruzenak
It does seem you have to search harder for Workamping jobs that have an RV site included plus pay. They are there, though. It means widening your search and holding out for what you want and using all sorts of methods to find these employers.
It can be done!
Jaimie Hall Bruzenak
author of Support Your RV Lifestyle! An Insider’s Guide to Working on the Road
January 4, 2010 at 3:31 am
H.S.
I was a little overwhelmed when I checked my Gmail earlier today. I’ve never been one to check it daily, so imagine my surprise when it was filled with mail. Many of you didn’t want to just leave comments, you wanted to write a letter and tell all. And another site I frequent has this linked, so I have received several private messages from there as well! I am trying to respond to everyone – so if you haven’t heard from me yet, you will.
Basically most of you are tired, of what one person referred to as, “abuse” of employers and the hiring process.
One person has pointed out that one of the biggest problems is these job ads do not have a hiring or application date mentioned. I AGREE! We need to start shouting to these work-sites that they need to have these listed in the ad! I don’t know how many times I’ve heard from others that they put in a resume the SAME DAY that an ad was placed, only to get an email a couple hours later stating, “We hired all our people”. Did they only have a two-hour “hire window”? And if they are not currently hiring but TAKING APPLICATIONS, they should mention that in the advertisement. I think some of these companies are just submitting ads because they are a part of their site or organization membership. If anyone has some ideas how to get job-sites to start enforcing this, please let us know. And I will be more than happy to post links here, write letters or do whatever help is needed on my end.
Again, I will be responding to all who have sent letters. I have managed to get a handful out and have several letter comments to post below.
January 4, 2010 at 3:32 am
H.S.
EMAIL I REC’D THAT ASKED TO BE ANONYMOUS:
“We are one of those who have decided to hang-up our workamping hats after the summer season. It may be sooner if we don’t find a job for the summer season. We’ve sent out numerous resumes and have received no response or rude ones. I can’t believe the nerve of some of these employers. One emailed back that we looked too old to work! Like you mentioned, we are crossing off these employers and telling our friends. The best thing we can do is just stop patronizing their campgrounds!”
(I have since emailed asking which employer questioned their age.)
January 4, 2010 at 3:34 am
H.S.
“I got an email from our ad from an Avon dealer. We paid $40 to get invited to sell Avon! “
Minton (Uncertain on full name)
(I have since emailed you on what appears in your ad and would be happy to help you write a new one and overall your resume for work-camping. And please, don’t think you have to pay them to get a job. There are other websites and ways to find jobs without paying.)
January 4, 2010 at 3:35 am
H.S.
“My husband and I are in the same boat. We began working last year and have had a rough time making a go at it. These parks are all so mismanaged and I think half of them are lying in their ads. If you ask any questions they don’t return your call or are just vague. The last park we worked at told us we had cable and free laundry. They had no cable and the laundry was one of each in an old tool shed. We had to drive over 20 miles to get it done each week. I wouldn’t recommend any newcomers to this since most of us are already struggling to find honest park jobs.”
Jean C.
January 4, 2010 at 3:36 am
H.S.
“Clare and I are not happy at all. Been hard to make ends meet with fuel and limited pay. Seems like all the places that contact us are run by hillbillies. I laughed when I read about the pay you figured. We had one email us and I figured we working for around 50 cents. Like you mentioned, it’d be cheaper to just work outside for at least minimum wage and pay to be at a campsite. It’s just not worth the frustration anymore.” Bob (no last name provided in the email)
January 4, 2010 at 3:40 am
H.S.
“We were told that while we were working at the resort we had to take our Workamper ad and any others down. they just don’t want us finding jobs at all and not pay us where we are.” (No name provided, except in email)
(Actually, we had this happen to us. It was written in the contract and we refused to sign the contract or take the position – although for several reasons. Apparently some employers have had people leave for better offers. That is understandable, yet an employer should not force their workers to sign off on something like that. It shows a lack of trust with the employers and makes me question whether or not the facility even treats its employees right if they are all trying to get out of the position! If we ever find ourselves in this position again, I will ask the employer if that means they will withdraw ALL THEIR advertising while we are contracted to work there.
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January 4, 2010 at 3:42 am
H.S.
“thank you about time someone told the truth about this. it’s not easy and it’s no damn dream.” kyle g.
(Kyle, if you see this, please email me again. I emailed you regarding that position mentioned in your email, but it was returned to me. I have some information that will help you out and it won’t cost a thing!
Please contact me!)
*Edited to add quotation marks around his quote.* (I’m getting tired!)
January 4, 2010 at 3:45 am
H.S.
“I don’t worry about pay anymore. I just try to find a site to work for weekly and then find a job nearby. McDonald’s usually hires me. Sometimes hard with hours though.” Betty G.
(If you do this, make sure the campground you work for will allow you to work an outside job. I know someone who found out this was “against” their contract. I could understand if it was a competing campground, but this one actually stated no other jobs while working there.)
January 4, 2010 at 3:50 am
H.S.
EMAIL I REC’D THAT ASKED TO BE ANONYMOUS:
“The next time a company hires us they better folllow thru with all the promises made. I’m saving emails as proof. We’ll sue them if they don’t follow thru. I’m sick of this crap.”
(It’s always best to keep records of communication with potential employers. I really recommend a work-camping agreement or type of contract. AND, remember, the best contract is one signed by both parties! Have them send you a signed contract, so that you can sign it and then make copies of both (or all) signatures before sending it back. After hiring in at a position, I print all emails and gather all postal correspondence and place it in a “report” folder (those plain ones for grade school). It also helps to keep your contact information, job duties and dates handy when you are updating your resume.)
January 4, 2010 at 11:55 pm
H.S.
I have replied to almost everyone – thank you again! I will not cross-post anymore comments (too time consuming).
However, I did get an email shortly from a work-camper who received a note from an employer who has a current ad in a work-camp publication. Here’s part of what the manager (she thought that is who sent it) had to say:
“Thank you for applying to work at [REMOVED] for the 2010 season. We do not think we need your services this year becuase the last years staff are returning.”
The gal who sent me this was correct – I double-checked their information and they have a brand-new ad for hiring 2010 help (a January/February issue). So another reason for forcing advertisers to display deadlines and to reveal if they are hiring or just collecting applications.